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oh neat, there is a LJ chat thingo. Go Jabber. :)

This means LJ has some continuing relevant in my electronic communications, since as previously noted I prefer to no longer broadcast my personal life bluntly via social websites (LJ/Myspace/facebook/etc).

Instead (and I thought I'd mentioned this here before, but apparently not really) I'm more than happy to chat using various real-time IM methods; msn/irc/jabber (gtalk/LJchat) or email. There are lots of ways to contact me

So, to summarise...
* Messages suitable for broadcast announcements will still be made here, but not much else.
* To find out about me, my life, how I'm doing, etc, don't expect to get to read about it in a broadcast-based online medium.

To summarise the summary
* Nemo dislikes social websites

To summarise the summary of the summary
* People are a problem Impersonal communication is the problem

To categorise the summary of the summary of the summary
* This joke ripped off from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Examine my head and find me basically...: contemplativecontemplative
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From:iki_maska
Date:April 6th, 2008 03:08 pm (UTC)
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It's interesting to look at the rise of the social networking phenomenon from before it existed. There was no-one I knew reading my LJ. There was a lot more thought in posts (such as this one of yours) than random output of daily happenings (more its prime purpose these days). Not a bad thing, means I can remember to catch up with people once in a while (though I do miss the days when people posted because they'd been thinking about something).

I'm waiting for the social graph equivalent of Jabber so I do not need to sell out to Rupert Murdoch or Sergei or any one provider just to stay in contact with people. Then maybe split the social and philosophic portions.

My issue is with IM of varying persuasions. I prefer asynchronous communication for written communication and find that IM combines the worst aspects of face-to-face and written. That's a personal preference mind you, and not a statement on IM.
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From:earthnative
Date:April 8th, 2008 08:18 am (UTC)
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There are alot of ways to look at it... certainly I like the philosophic aspect of things...

I do wonder how much peoples attitutes to IM and social websites are based around their initial exposures to the online world?

In my own case, it was textforums (BBSs, but not in the traditional dialup sense (wiki for YAWC, then trace lineage back to DOC and Citadel) where I first was social online. These provided "rooms" (not dissimilar to modern webforums), and "X messages" - basically IM. All combined in one. Indeed, one of the first descriptions of LJ to me was that it was like a BBS, but each person runs a room about themselves.

The fun of the BBS though was the 100 or so rooms each on a different topic. I see nothing equivalent today. Webforums are (apart from clumsy interface), far too specialised, and have no chat integrations (this is changing I admit).

Social websites otoh, seem to increasingly cater for the 'broadcast my life' crowd. In all trivial details if possible... all the gossipy badness of IM, with all the permanence and broadcast ability of a website.

I certainly agree that IM can combine some poor aspects of face and written convo - but it adds the real-time element which can overcome some of those issues. (though given some of the heated convos I've had, can enhance the issues badly too :(

Ultimately though, I like both IM and email cos I feel like I'm talking to people deliberately, rather than broadcasting more or less mindlessly. (LJ comments never worked for me, dispite this comment itself :)

I still lurk on ALOT of IRC, but it's pretty quiet these days too...
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From:kokopops
Date:April 7th, 2008 12:28 pm (UTC)
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I'm ashamed at you. I would NEVER steal jokes from Hitch Hikers!

(Well, maybe once or twice. A day...)
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